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Brown, William H., III, Chairman, Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission, to Hon. Don Edwards, April 20, 1972.

121

Burns, Arthur F., Chairman, Federal Reserve System, to Hon. Don
Edwards, May 18, 1972

146

DeShazo, Thomas G., Acting Comptroller of the Currency, Depart-

ment of the Treasury, to Hon. Don Edwards, April 18, 1972_

Gooch, Gordon, General Counsel, Federal Power Commission, to

David L. Norman, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Divi-

sion, Department of Justice, September 29, 1971..

Hesburgh, Rev. Theodore M., Chairman, U.S. Commission on Civil

Rights, to Hon. Don Edwards, April 28, 1972_--

Nassikas, John N., Chairman, Federal Power Commission, to Hon.

Don Edwards, April 13, 1972_

Norman, David L., Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Divi-
sion, Department of Justice, to Gordon Gooch, General Counsel,
Federal Power Commission, September 17, 1971.

Pollak, Stephen J., Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division,
Department of Justice, to Rosel H. Hyde, Chairman, Federal
Communications Commission, May 21, 1968--

Stafford, George M., Chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission,
to Hon. Don Edwards, April 5, 1972.

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Trimmer, Harold H., Acting Administrator, General Services Adminis-
tration, to Hon. Don Edwards, May 19, 1972___.

148

Statement before the Interstate Commerce Commission, Ex Parte No. 278, Equal Opportunity in Surface Transportation.. Executive Order No. 11478_

Federal Communications Commission

Petition for Rulemaking to Require Broadcast Licensees to
Show Nondiscrimination in Their Employment Practices.
FCC Docket No. 18244 RM-1144, July 3, 1968-
Proposed Rulemaking: Communications Common Carriers-
Non-Discrimination in Employment Practices, 34 Fed. Reg.
19200 (1969)____

Equal Employment Opportunities (Common Carriers) 47 C.F.R.
§ 21.307.

Proposed Rulemaking: Radio Broadcast Services-Non-Dis-
crimination in Employment Practices, 35 Fed. Reg. 8825
(1970)

Equal Employment Opportunities (Radio Broadcast Services)
47 C.F.R. § 73.125-

Federal Power Commission

Memorandum Concerning Civil Rights-Poverty Role of the
Federal Power Commission, March 18, 1969_-
Memorandum Concerning Extent of the Commission's Power to
Condition Its Granting of Licenses and Certificates to Further
Civil Rights Policies, April 17, 1969__.
Memorandum From the Deputy General Counsel to the Chair-
man Concerning Recommended Civil Rights Activity, April
17, 1969___.

Equal Employment Opportunity Action Plan (Revised
October 20, 1971) To Implement Executive Order 11478,
August 8, 1969__

Administrative Order No. 131, Equal Employment Opportunity,
January 26, 1970..

Memorandum Concerning FPC Regulation of the Employment
Practices of Natural Gas Companies and Public Utilities,
February 17, 1972_.

Memorandum Concerning FPC Programs Relative to Non-
discriminatory Use of Licensed Project Facilities, February 25,
1972__

Program and Procedures to Ensure Equal Employment Oppor-
tunity to Employees of the Federal Power Commission,
February 28, 1972-

Memorandum Concerning Minority Employment Practices of
Regulated Gas Utilities, February 29, 1972_

Memorandum Concerning Minority Employment Practices of
Six Regulated Electric Utilities, February 29, 1972--
Memorandum Concerning Analysis of Federal Trade Commission
v. Sperry and Hutchinson Company, Supreme Court Opinion,
April 7, 1972_.

Memorandum Concerning FPC Procedures for Obtaining Compliance with Regulations at Licensed Projects, Part B, Recreational Opportunities and Development at Licensed Projects, Regulations Under the Federal Power Act, April 7, 1972.......... Memorandum of Legal Authorities Prepared in Response to Questions Posed March 2, 1972, Hearings, Subcommittee No. 4, Committee on the Judiciary, U.S. House of Representatives__ The Washington Post, editorial, "A Question of Zeal," March 2, 1972.

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THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE FEDERAL POWER COMMISSION IN THE AREA OF CIVIL RIGHTS

THURSDAY, MARCH 2, 1972

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

CIVIL RIGHTS OVERSIGHT SUBCOMMITTEE,

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, at 10 a.m., in room 2237, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Don Edwards of California (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Representatives Edwards of California, McClory, Keating, and Wiggins.

Also present: Jerome M. Zeifman, counsel; Alfred S. Joseph III, assistant counsel; George A. Dalley, assistant counsel.

Mr. EDWARDS. The subcommittee will come to order.

Today the Civil Rights Oversight Subcommittee of the House Committee on the Judiciary looks into the manner in which the Federal Power Commission is carrying out its responsibilities in the area of civil rights. The need for improvement in minority employment opportunities in the power industry, for example, is great. This subcommittee has information indicating:

In 1970, Spanish-surnamed Americans held 3.6 percent of all jobs reported in the equal employment opportunity report nationwide survey; but they hold only 1.6 percent of all jobs in the utility industry. Spanish-surnamed Americans in 1970 held less than 1 percent of the official, managerial, professional and sales jobs and only 1.5 percent of all technicians jobs in the utility industry.

While women held 34 percent of the positions reported in EEOC's overall survey in 1970, only 15 percent of the utility industry's employees were female.

Nine out of 10 female employees studied on the 1970 survey in the utilities industry were clerical workers.

Black participation in the electric and gas utility industries is the lowest (6.1 percent) among the 23 industries reporting employment of 500,000 or more.

One-half of all utility establishments filing equal employment opportunity reports with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in 1970 had no black employees.

In the November 1971 Equal Employment Opportunity Commission hearings on the utilization of minorities and women in gas and

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electric utility companies, Commission Chairman William N. Brown III, stated that he was "stunned by the rampant dscrimination" he saw in the public utility industry. He continued:

"Employment discrimination is not new to us. The people who serve this Commission have spent most of their adult lives working on problems of human rights. We deal with discrimination every day.

"Yet we are shocked. We are astounded in the face of testimony which indicates actual systems of repression by gas and electric utility companies. Not only are women and minority individuals now working in the lowest job classifications; it appears that they are locked into these undesirable jobs for the rest of their working lives."

(See p. 153 of this document for full text.)

It would appear not only that the Federal Power Commission has the authority to consider the employment practices of regulated companies, but that it has an obligation to do so. In a September 17, 1971 letter to FPC General Counsel Gordon Gooch, David L. Norman, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, concluded as follows on the issue of the authority of the FPC to regulate employment practices of regulated companies:

The commission has ample authority to issue regulations barring employment discrimination by natural gas companies regulated by the commission and by electric companies holding hydroelectric plant licenses.

The primary basis of Mr. Norman's conclusion, with which I wholeheartedly agree, is that the commission is obligated in making a decision on a license application to consider matters of fundamental national policy. The national policy against discrimination in employment practices is clearly spelled out in title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Federal Communications Commission in 1968, relying upon an opinion of then Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, Stephen J. Pollak, promulgated rules prohibiting employment discrimination by broadcasters subject to FCC jurisdiction. There is thus clear precedent for a Federal regulatory agency undertaking measures to deal with racial discrimination in employment.

In spite of Mr. Norman's opinion and the regulations issued by the Federal Communication Commission in this area, this subcommittee has information that it does not feel it has authority to play a part in achieving the national policy of nondiscrimination in employment.

We are here today to discuss with the Federal Power Commission their responsibilities in the civil rights area and we would like to focus our discussion on their ability to help eliminate discriminatory employment practices in the utility industries.

This morning our witness is the Chairman of the Federal Power Commission, Mr. John N. Nassikas.

Mr. Chairman, we welcome you to these important hearings. Will you please identify for the record the gentlemen with you and then you may proceed with your statement.

Mr. McCLORY. Will the Chairman yield?

Mr. EDWARDS. Yes.

Mr. McCLORY. Mr. Chairman, I certainly want to express a warm welcome here this morning to my friend and fellow alumnus from Dartmouth College, the Chairman of the Federal Power Commission,

John Nassikas, and to express the interest which we have in his service and in the statement he is about to present.

I know of his personal dedication to the cause of civil rights and human rights and I have sort of wondered, since the hearing was scheduled, the extent of activity or the extent of authority or the extent of interests which the Federal Power Commission as an enforcement agency might have with regard to this general subject, since we have designated by legislation specific authority in other agencies of government for the purpose of enforcing equal rights and opportunities among all American citizens.

But from a preliminary survey or examination of the statement about to be persented, it appears that the Federal Power Commission has provided additional interest beyond that which I suppose they would have.

So I certainly want to join in welcoming you here this morning and express my interest in this statement and in your appearing here and your important and able work as Chairman of the Federal Power Commission.

Mr. NASSIKAS. Thank you.

Mr. EDWARDS You may proceed, Mr. Nassikas.

STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN N. NASSIKAS, CHAIRMAN, FEDERAL POWER COMMISSION, ACCOMPANIED BY WEBSTER P. MAXSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; GORDON GOOCH, GENERAL COUNSEL; DREXEL D. JOURNEY, DEPUTY GENERAL COUNSEL; T. A. PHILLIPS, CHIEF, BUREAU OF POWER; EMMETT J. GAVIN, ASSISTANT TO THE CHAIRMAN; LEON J. SLAVIN, CHIEF, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, BUREAU OF NATURAL GAS; MARY C. DORN, FEDERAL POWER COMMISSION WOMEN'S COORDINATOR; CLAUDIUS L. FIKE, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF PERSONNEL PROGRAMS; ALEXANDER RANDOLPH, JR., EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY OFFICER; DANIEL GOLDSTEIN, ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL; SUSAN A. MARSHALL, LEGAL ASSISTANT, OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL; ANITA P. GREEN, ASSISTANT TO CHAIRMAN; AND NORMA B. SMITH, ASSISTANT TO CHAIRMAN

Mr. NASSIKAS. Chairman Edwards, Congressman McClory, I would like to first introduce the gentlemen who are seated with me at the table.

To my extreme right is Mr. Webster Maxson, who is the Executive Director of the Federal Power Commission.

To my immediate right is Gordon Gooch, General Counsel of the Federal Power Commission.

To my left is Drexel Journey, Deputy General Counsel of the Federal Power Commission.

I have also brought with me, in the event that the committee wished to inquire of any of our key employees in the subject matter of the hearing, I have also brought with me, and have given a list to the Reporter so that he can incorporate it in the record, additional personnel. There are two assistants to me as Chairman who are seated in the back

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